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2012: The End of the World?


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2012: The End of the World?

I grew up in the height of the Charismatic Movement where the "End Times" were always "at hand". I can remember hearing dozens of scenarios for how Jesus was coming back any day. And there were also dozens of songs pining away about how "I wish we'd all been ready." And who can forget the  action-packed epic movies like "A Thief in the Night" and "A Distant Thunder".
That was nearly 40 years ago, and while the Christians who produced these movies and books were no doubt sincere, they were all wrong -- Jesus did not come back in the 1970s. And all the 88 reasons why Jesus was supposed to come back in 1988 turned out to be false as well.
Now we are hearing a growing chorus of voices -- including the upcoming Hollywood movie, also called 2012 -- saying that the world is going to end in 2012. We'll see.
Fuel has been added to the fire recently with the release of scientific reports that there is an expectation of major solar storms in 2012.
I find great comfort and wisdom in the words of Jesus that, "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" (Matthew 24:36, NIV). So I don't allow myself to get caught up in "rapture fever". I find it to be mostly a waste of time and energy that could be better spent helping hurting people and preaching the Good News of Jesus Christ.
But just to stay in balance, the Lord instructed that disciples were to be aware of the "signs of the times" and when these things begin appearing to "...stand and look up, for your salvation is near!" (Luke 21:28b, NLT) So we are to study the signs of the times, but not to be so caught up in "end-times theology" that we are distracted from the important work of the Great Commission.
In light of this, I believe this prophetic exhortation by R. Loren Sandford, pastor of New Song Fellowship in Denver, Colorado, is timely. This prophetic word was published in Charisma Magazine's online Prophetic Insights section.

In recent weeks I've found I can no longer turn to the History Channel (my favorite) without being confronted with the Nostradamus Effect, the Mayan calendar, the Chinese I'ching or the Christian prophet, Malachy, from the 12th century, each of which has been said to have declared the end of the world in this time period. Even people who don't read their Bibles seem to be focused on the last days.
Will the world end in 2012? I don't believe so. But in that time period and leading up to it we will see an acceleration of instability and uncertainty in the world. This will not be a collapse, but rather an intensification of fear as the whirlwind of change across the globe gathers speed.
It will appear that major nations once at war with one another are making peace. In terms of the possibility of major wars, therefore, there will be a diminished sense of danger, while smaller conflicts in more localities will likely escalate, in both number and intensity. It will be a time of "wars and rumors of wars" (Matt. 24:6, NASB), but not on a world scale.
We will also see an increase in natural disasters in various places—earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, hurricanes and tornadoes. Earth can no longer bear up under the weight of the sin of mankind (see Matt. 24).
The coming turmoil will be felt primarily in global power shifts in both comparative military might and economic influence. These shifts are already taking place. America will remain a big fish in the world's pond, but it will no longer be the only big fish in the world's pond and will therefore feel itself diminished in terms of significance on the world stage.
These changes, among other influences, will lead to increased political turmoil and greater ideological polarization in America. We will be an increasingly divided nation with an escalating risk of erupting violence as frustration grows; ethnic and cultural groups see themselves disempowered; and people seek outlets for the fear and anger they feel due to not being heard by their government and/or other ethnic and cultural groups.
In days to come believers must not feed these divisions or participate in them at any level or in any way. We have been called as reconcilers who have been given a ministry of reconciliation, not division (see 2 Cor. 5:18).
That being said, no matter what we do, we will be increasingly marginalized culturally as a result of societal disfavor in days to come, but we must take care that our own attitudes and behavior in response to such disfavor do not draw unnecessary levels of opposition upon us.
In the years to come it will become more and more necessary that we live as the first and second century Christians did under the Roman Empire. They didn't equate their Christian faith with a political movement or party as so many of us do today—"My kingdom is not of this world," Jesus told his disciples (John 18:36)—but rather became known for their love when everyone else's love grew cold. They openly modeled a moral and glorious lifestyle without issuing scathing condemnations of Roman immorality.
"See how the Christians love," became the testimony of those who observed their character and their conduct toward one another as well as toward outsiders. It wasn't that they didn't address sin. They did, in fact, call for repentance, but left judgment, vengeance and condemnation up to God. This made them wonderfully attractive to growing numbers of Romans who were hungering for an alternative to the destruction brought on by the sin that infected the core of Roman society.
Historically, societal decay has always set the stage for revival because sin brings death—and death makes people hungry for healing. If we will set a course to be Christlike in days to come, we can turn the tide of disfavor and win multitudes to Jesus.
The years to come may therefore be tumultuous and fearful ones for the world, but if we will take our rightful places as ministers of the kingdom of God—a kingdom of love, service, and signs and wonders—the coming years will be the most glorious the church has ever known. Romans 8:19: "For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God." This is our hour! Matthew 24:14: "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come." 

About the author: R. Loren Sandford is the founder and senior pastor of New Song Fellowship in Denver, Colorado. He is also the author of several books, including Understanding Prophetic People and The Prophetic Church (both published by Chosen). Audio and video recordings of Sandford's messages may be purchased on his church's Web site, newsongfellowship.org.
Prophetic Insight is a weekly bulletin offering timely and relevant messages for the body of Christ from recognized prophetic voices. It is prepared by Maureen Eha, features editor for Charisma magazine. Used with permission.

END TIMES

2012: The End of the World As We Know It?

By James Watkins 
Contributing Writer

CBN.com  As you've probably heard, the world as we know it will be ending on December 21, 2012. That's when the Mayan calendar ends — and the world with it — so says the new motion picture 2012 and the usual conspiracy theorists.
According to december212012.com, expect everything from super volcanoes, destructive sun spots, and the arrival of "Planet X" into our galaxy causing all kinds of astronomical disasters to the government requiring ID chip implants and the Catholic church admitting that, and I quote, "they have been misleading the church for hundreds of years."
The calendar in my office ends December 31, 2009, but I'm not worried since people have been predicting the end of the world since Noah! And except for that watery end, everyone else has been wrong in their gloom and doom. 
For instance . . .

365 A.D. 
Hilary of Poitiers announced the world would end in the year of 365. When it didn't his student, Saint Martin of Tours, pushed the date out to 400. Other predictions followed of 500 (Hipplytus), 968 (German emperor Otto III) and Good Friday 992.

January 1, 1000 (Y1K)
Christians in Europe believed Christ would return on that date and gave their worldly goods to the church, which didn't give them back, which probably led to the Reformation.

More predictions followed of 1147 (Gerard of Poehlde), 1176 (John of Toledo's prediction based on alignment of the planets), 1205 (Joachim of Fiore), 1282 (Pope Innocent III computing 666 years since the founding of Islam) and 1496 (Mystics who believed Christ would return 1,500 years after his birth).
October 3, 1533
After "a careful study of the Bible and mathematics," German mathematician Michael Stifel predicted a date for the end of the world. Stifel gathered his small group of true believers atop a hill near Lochau. When the end did not occur, he was placed in protective custody from angry villagers who had sold their homes and farms in anticipation of the end.

1688-1700
Scottish mathematician John Napier published The Plaine Discovery of the Whole Revelation of St. John. In it, he identified the Pope as the Antichrist and predicted the end of the world between 1688 and 1700.

October 13, 1736
British theologian and mathematician William Whitson predicted a great flood similar to Noah's for October 13, 1736—obviously ignoring God's promise not to destroy the earth by flood.

March 21, 1843
More recently, William Miller predicted the world would end around March 21, 1843. Thousands of "Millerites" sold their property and possessions, quit their jobs and prepared themselves for the second coming. The failed prophecy was dubbed "The Great Disappointment." Undeterred, Miller reset the date for October 22, 1844. More disappointment!

1844-1850
Ellen White, founder of the Seven Day Adventists movement, made many predictions of the timing of the end of the world during this time. All failed.

On or before February 15, 1891
Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon church, announced at a meeting that Jesus would return within 56 years or February 15, 1891.

1914
Using a complex formula based on the "days" of Daniel 4, the Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower Bible and Tract Society) predicted Christ's return in 1914. When the date passed, leaders claimed Christ had "invisibly" begun His rule.

December 17, 1919
Meteorologist Albert Porta predicted that the alignment of six planets would "generate a magnetic current that would cause the Sun to explode and engulf the Earth" on that date.

March 10, 1982
In 1974, astronomers John Gribben and Stephen Plagemann predicted the "Jupiter Effect" in which planets would align on the same side of the sun unleashing solar flares, radio interruptions, rainfall, temperature disturbances, and massive earthquakes.

May 14, 1988
Hal Lindsey, in his best-selling book The Late, Great Planet Earth, predicted Rapture in 1988—one generation or 40 years after the creation of the state of Israel.

October 11, 1988
Edgar Whisenaut, a NASA scientist, sold over 4 million copies of 88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Occur in 1988. His second book, 89 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Occur in 1989 didn't sell as well.

January 1, 2000 (Y2K)
Alarmists claimed a dating glitch would cause computers around the world to crash causing widespread disaster.

September 10, 2008
Alarmists worried that when Switzerland's Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world's largest high-energy particle accelerator, became operational, it would create a black hole of earth. It was shut down nine days later due to problems with its superconducting magnets. It's scheduled to go back online later this month.

So, am I worried that we have just over three years of life as we know it on this planet? Nope, here's why. Jesus teaches:
". . . no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows (Matthew 24:36).
You also must be ready all the time, for the Son of Man will come when least expected (Matthew 24:44).
So if Jesus Himself doesn't know when the world will end, why should I believe the Mayans. After all, they had no clue their world was ending when the Spanish conquerors showed up.
I'm just going to do my part to save the planet my re-using, reducing, and recycling, keep my weather radio plugged in, and do my best to live out Jesus' teachings.
Do you need hope for the future? Find peace with God
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Premillennialism: The Second Foundation ~ Thomas Ice


Premillennialism: The Second Foundation

by Thomas Ice

The second foundation stone supporting the pretribulational rapture of the church is the biblical doctrine known as premillennialism. Premillennialism teaches that the second advent will occur before Christ's thousand-year reign from Jerusalem upon earth. In the early church, premillennialism was called chiliasm, from the Greek term meaning 1,000 used six times in Revelation 20:2-7. Charles Ryrie cites essential features of premillennialism as follows: "Its duration will be 1,000 years; its location will be on this earth; its government will be theocratic with the personal presence of Christ reigning as King; and it will fulfill all the yet-unfulfilled promises about the earthly kingdom."1
Premillennialism is contrasted with the postmillennial teaching that Christ will return after He has reigned spiritually from His throne in heaven for a long period of time during the current age, through the church, and the similar amillennial view that also advocates a present, but pessimistic, spiritual reign of Christ. Biblical premillennialism is a necessary foundation for pretribulationalism since it is impossible for either postmillennialism or amillennialism to support pretribulationism.

Historical Overview
Without question, premillennialism was the earliest and most widely held view of the earliest centuries of the church. The dean of church historians, Philip Schaff has said, "The most striking point in the eschatology of the ante-Nicene Age [A.D. 100-325] is the prominent chiliasm, or millenarianism, . . . a widely current opinion of distinguished teachers, such as Barnabas, Papia, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Methodius, and Lactantius."2 German historian Adolph Harnack has said, "First in point of time came the faith in the nearness of Christ's second advent and the establishing of His reign of glory on the earth. Indeed it appears so early that it might be questioned as an essential part of the Christian religion. . . . it must be admitted that this expectation was a prominent feature in the earliest proclamation of the gospel, and materially contributed to its success. If the primitive churches had been under the necessity of framing a 'Confession of Faith,' it would certainly have embraced those pictures by means of which the near future was distinctly realized."3
Premillennialism began to die out in the established Catholic Church during the life of Augustine (A.D. 354-430). Ryrie summarizes this change: "With the union of church and state under Constantine, the hope of Christ's coming faded some. The Alexandrian school of interpretation attacked the literal hermeneutic on which premillennialism was based, and the influence of the teaching of Augustine reinterpreted the concept and time of the Millennium."4 Premillennialism has always survived, even when it has not been dominant or widely known. Chiliasm, though suppressed by the dominant Catholic Church, nevertheless survived through "underground" and "fringe" groups of Christians during the 1,000 year mediaeval period. During the Reformation, Anabaptists and Hugenots helped to revive premillennialism, until it was adopted on a wide scale by many Puritans during the Post-Reformation era.
The last 200 years have seen the greatest development and spread of premillennialism since the early church. Starting in the British Isles and spreading to America, consistent premillennialism, known as dispensational premillennialism, has come to dominate the Evangelical faith. This form of premillennialism has given rise to the most rigorous application of the literal hermeneutic which has lead to the championing of pretribulational premillennialism in our own day.

Biblical Basis for Premillennialism

Even though the strongest support for premillennialism is found in the clear statement of Revelation 20:1-7, where six times Christ's kingdom is said to last 1,000 years, the Old Testament and the rest of the New Testament also support a premillennial understanding of God's plan for history. Jeffrey Townsend has given an excellent summary of the biblical evidence for premillennialism in the following material:
Developed from the Old Testament
"The OT covenants with Abraham and David established unconditional promises of an Israelite kingdom in the ancient land ruled by the ultimate Son of David. The OT prophets, from the earliest to the latest, looked forward to the establishment of this kingdom. Its principle features will include: regathering of the Jews from the nations to the ancient land, mass spiritual regeneration of the Jewish people, restoration of Jerusalem as the principal city and her Temple as the spiritual center of the world, the reign of David's ultimate Son over the twelve reunited tribes dwelling securely in the land as the pre-eminent nation of the world. Based on OT Scripture, a this-earthly, spiritual-geopolitical fulfillment of these promises is expected.
Developed from the New Testament
The NT writers do not reinterpret the OT kingdom promises and apply them to the church. Instead the church participates now in the universal, spiritual blessings of the Abrahamic, Davidic, and New Covenants without negating the ultimate fulfillment of the covenant promises to Israel. The NT authors affirm rather than deny the ancient kingdom hope of Israel. Matthew, Luke, and Paul all teach a future for national Israel. Specifically, Acts 1 with Acts 3 establishes that the restoration of the kingdom to Israel takes place at the second coming of Jesus Christ. Romans 11 confirms that at the time of the second advent, Israel will have all her unconditional covenants fulfilled to her. First Corinthians 15 speaks of an interim kingdom following Christ's return but prior to the eternal kingdom of God during which Christ will rule and vanquish all His enemies. Finally, Revelation 20 gives the chronology of events and length of Christ's kingdom on this earth prior to the eternal state.
In sum, the case for premillennialism rests on the fact that the OT promises of an earthly kingdom are not denied or redefined but confirmed by the NT. The basis of premillennialism is not the reference to the thousand years in Revelation 20. That is merely a detail, albeit an important one, in the broad pattern of Scripture. The basis of premillennialism is the covenant-keeping nature of our God, affirmed over and over again in the pages of Scripture. God will do what He has said He will do, for His own glory among the nations. And what He has said He will do is fulfill the Abrahamic, Davidic, and New Covenants to a regathered, regenerated, restored nation of Israel at the second coming of Jesus Christ, and for a thousand years thereafter, prior to the eternal kingdom of God."5

Conclusion
Premillennialism is merely the result of interpreting the whole Bible, Genesis to Revelation, in the most natural way -- literally. Many of the critics admit that if the literal approach is applied consistently to the whole of Scripture, then premillennialism is the natural result. If the Old Testament promises are ever going to be fulfilled literally for Israel as a nation, then they are yet in the future. This is also supportive of premillennialism. Premillennialism also provides a satisfactory and victorious end to history in time as man through Christ satisfactorily fulfills his creation mandate to rule over the world.
Premillennialism is a necessary biblical prerequisite needed to build the later biblical doctrine of the rapture of the church before the seven-year tribulation.

Endnotes
1 Charles C. Ryrie, Basic Theology: A Popular Systematic Guide To Understanding Biblical Truth (Wheaton, Ill.: Victor Books, 1986), p. 450.
2 Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church (New York: Scribner, 1884),, Vol. 2, p. 614.
3 Adolph Harnack, "Millennium," The Encyclopedia Britannica, Ninth Edition (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1883), XVI, pp. 314-15. Cited in Renald E. Showers, There Really Is A Difference! A Comparison of Covenant and Dispensational Theology (Bellmawr, N.J.: The Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc., 1990), p. 117.
4 Ryrie, Basic Theology, p. 452.
5 Jeffrey L. Townsend, "Premillennialism Summarized: Conclusion" in Edited by Donald K. Campbell & Jeffrey L. Townsend, A Case For Premillennialism: A New Consensus (Chicago: Moody Press, 1992), pp. 270-71. 



The Second Coming of Jesus Christ ~ Greg Laurie



The Second Coming of Jesus Christ



In a Gallup Poll, 66% of Americans said that they believe Jesus Christ is coming back to this Earth in the future. That’s 25% more people than those who claim to be “born again.”


This great event is described for us many times in Scripture.


 There are more than 300 passages in Scripture that deal with Christ’s Return.
This Thursday, at our Orange County Bible study, we will talk about the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. I will give the same message the following Sunday morning at Harvest.
This is a topic we all need to know a lot more about as believers.


An Evening of Hope
Don’t forget our special event, An Evening of Hope, this coming Sunday night at Harvest, featuring Christian musician Steven Curtis Chapman.
I believe this will be a very special night, especially for anyone who will have an empty seat at the table this holiday season once occupied by a loved one who is now gone.
This event will also be webcast live. For more info, click here.


Preaching on Skid Row
This Thanksgiving, I will be preaching at the Fred Jordan Mission on L.A.’s Skid Row.
As many of you know, Fred Jordan was my uncle and has been in heaven for many years now. His wife, my aunt Willie, has carried on this great work.
In addition to feeding thousands throughout the year, they will provide meals to some 3,000 people on Thanksgiving weekend.
It will be my privilege to bring a gospel message to those in attendance. My friend Dennis Agajanian will provide some music, along with our Harvest Worship Band.
That’s all for now.

False Profits making Money on 2012

The Money Changers...money makers are out in force for 2012, from selling T-shirts to selling you salvation, the Great End of the World is the latest greatest way to Fleece the Flock since Y2K and selling pieces of the Cross.
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The Great 2012 Doomsday Scare





This guest article on 2012 was written by E. C. Krupp, Director of Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles and is reprinted with permission from Sky & Telescope Magazine. The publisher and the author reserve all rights. All opinions are the author's own.

The year 2012 is acting like a badly behaved celebrity. Frightful rumors and gossip are spreading. Already more than a half dozen books are marketing, to eager fans, astronomical fears about 2012 End Times. Opening in theaters on Friday, Nov. 13, will be 2012, a $200-million disaster movie that seems designed to break all records for disaster spectacles -- with cracking continents, plunging asteroids, burning cities, and a tsunami throwing an aircraft carrier through the White House. The movie's ominous slogan: "Find out the truth." Two other major movies about the 2012 doomsday are also reported to be in the works.

Anyone who cruises the internet or all-night talk radio knows why. The ancient Maya of Mexico and Guatemala kept a calendar that is about to roll up the red carpet of time, swing the solar system into transcendental alignment with the heart of the Milky Way, and turn Earth into a bowling pin for a rogue planet heading down our alley for a strike.

None of it is true. People you know, however, are likely becoming a bit afraid that modern astronomy and Maya secrets are indeed conspiring to bring our doom. If people know you’re an astronomer, they will soon be asking you all about it.

Here is what you need to know.

Birth of a Notion
We"ve had similar scares in the recent past, but none quite like this. The last time the world got all worked up over the mystical turning of a calendar was the false Millennium of Jan. 1, 2000. Never mind the actual Y2K computer-date bug. True-believer authors (and their imitators) published scary and/or hopeful books about the moment's prophetic potential to catch an immense cosmic wave and change everything for either good or ill. Borrowing a forecast from Nostradamus, the 16th-century French riddler, author Charles Berlitz predicted catastrophe in his 1981 book Doomsday 1999. Berlitz (fresh off books on Atlantis and the Bermuda Triangle), warned that 1999 could inflict flood, famine, pollution and a shift of Earth's magnetic poles. He also spotlighted the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000, and warned that it could bring solar flares, severe earthquakes, "land changes" and "seismic explosions."

In the 1990s an entire "Earth Changes" movement swelled into being as the end of the century neared, with all sorts of Millennial expectations -- earthquakes, plagues, polar axis shifts, continents sliding into the sea, Atlantis rising and more. In England, the Sun tabloid predicted a "marvelous millennium of joy, peace, prosperity."

When Jan. 1, 2000, came and went with nothing worse than ski-lift passes printing the date as 1900, the focus shifted to "5/5/2000" several months later. Most believers in the power of planetary alignments forgot the failure of earlier lineups to induce disaster. The "Jupiter Effect" cataclysm predicted for March 10, 1982 (named for the 1974 book about it by John Gribbin and Stephen Plagemann) commanded headlines but never materialized.

Throughout history, end-of-the-world movements missing their mark number in the "hundreds of thousands at the very least, says Richard Landes, historian at Boston University and director of its Center for Millennial Studies. But people eager for the world to end are not to be denied, and this time, of course, all will be different.

The Rollover
What exactly is the Maya calendar about to do? On Dec. 21, 2012, it will display the equivalent of a string of zeros, like the odometer turning over on your car, with the close of something like a millennium. In Maya calendrics, however, it's not the end of a thousand years. It's the end of Baktun 13. The Maya calendar was based on multiple cycles of time, and the baktun was one of them. A baktun is 144,000 days: a little more than 394 years.

Scholars have deciphered how the Maya calendar worked from historical texts and ancient inscriptions, and they have accurately correlated so-called Maya Long Count dates with the equivalent dates in our calendar. Just as we number our years counting from a historically and culturally significant event (the presumed birth year of Christ), Maya times were numbered from a date endowed with religious and cosmic significance: the creation date of the present world order. A Long Count date is the tally of days from that mythic startup. Most experts think the start point corresponds to Aug. 11, 3114 B.C.

Most of the Maya calendar intervals accumulate as multiples of 20. An interval of 7,200 days (360 × 20) was known as a katun. It takes 20 katuns to complete a baktun (20 × 7,200 = 144,000 days). Although some ancient inscriptions turn 13 baktuns into an important reset milestone, others imply that the calendar simply keeps running. For instance, it takes 20 baktuns to make a pictun.

No one paid much attention to the end of Baktun 13 until fairly recently. In 1975 Frank Waters, a romantic and speculative author, devoted a brief section to the subject in his book Mexico Mystique. He identified the 13-baktun interval as a "Mayan Great Cycle," overestimated its duration as 5,200 years, and equated five such cycles with five legendary eras, each of which ends in the world’s destruction and rebirth. There is no genuine Maya tradition behind any of this.

Waters also miscalculated the date when the calendar would supposedly pull down the shades. "The end of the Great Cycle . . . will occur Dec. 24, 2011 A.D.," he announced, when the world "will be destroyed by catastrophic earthquakes." Exact date aside, the doomsday ball was now rolling.

Another book in 1975 also spotlighted the Maya calendric roundup. Dennis and Terence McKenna discussed it in The Invisible Landscape: Mind, Hallucinogens, and the I Ching. That book at least got the Baktun-13 end date right: Dec. 21, 2012. It also noted that the date is the winter solstice, when the Sun will be "in the constellation Sagittarius, only about 3 degrees from the Galactic Center, which, also coincidentally, is within 2 degrees of the ecliptic." The McKennas continued, "Because the winter solstice node is precessing, it is moving closer and closer to the point on the ecliptic where it will eclipse the galactic center." In reality this event will never happen, but it hardly matters. The McKennas linked the whole arrangement with the concept of renewal and called 2012 a moment of "potential transformative opportunity."

Broader interest in 2012 caught on beginning in 1987. In The Mayan Factor: Path Beyond Technology, José Argüelles (an "artist, poet, and visionary historian" according to the dust jacket) linked the 13-baktun period with an impalpable "beam" from the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. According to Argüelles, the Maya knew when we entered this beam and when we would leave it, and set their 13-baktun cycle to mark our passage through it accordingly. The beam, he asserted, operates as "invisible galactic life threads" that link people, the planet, the Sun, and the center of the Galaxy. Neither Maya tradition nor modern astronomy supports a belief in any such beam. It stemmed instead from Argüelles’s personal philosophy, which emphasizes "the principle of harmonic resonance." Argüelles also concluded that the planets are "orbiting harmonic gyroscopes" that “play a role in the coordination of the beam," which advances the development of anything with DNA. The year 2012, therefore, will bring a rosy version of the apocalypse.

If this sounds a bit familiar, you're right. In 1987 Argüelles and his followers predicted, with worldwide fanfare, that Aug. 16–17 of that year would bring a Maya-Galactic "Harmonic Convergence." That event turned into a global phenomenon, with thousands gathering at Earth’s “acupuncture points” to create a "synchronized and unified bio-electromagnetic collective battery." Unfortunately, the date passed with nothing more than colorful newspaper stories and a Doonesbury satire. (A character explains earnestly that that the alignment could bring either "mass unification of divine and earth-plane selves," or perhaps nuclear annihilation. "Either way there will probably be a crafts fair.")

Galactic Guessing Games
Fast-forward to 1995. That year John Major Jenkins packaged several of these themes into Maya Cosmogenesis 2012. According to Jenkins, the winter-solstice point and the centerline of the Galaxy will line up exactly on Dec. 21. Arguing that this motivated the Maya to contrive the calendar to end on that date, Jenkins concludes that it will be "a tremendous transformation and opportunity for spiritual growth, a transition from one world age to another."

In fact, astronomy cannot pinpoint such a "galactic alignment" to within a year, much less a day. The alignment depends on the rather arbitrary modern definition of the galactic equator, and/or the visual appearance of the Milky Way. There is no precise definition of the Milky Way's edges -- they are very vague and depend on the clarity of your view. (Jenkins says that he personally established the Milky Way’s edges by viewing it from 11,000 feet, far above anywhere the Maya lived.) So to give a precise visual position for its centerline is not meaningful.

Jenkins did acknowledge that the winter-solstice Sun actually crosses the center of the Milky Way anytime between 1980 and 2016. Elsewhere he expands this approach zone to a 900-year period, and settles for an imprecise alignment to which Dec. 21, 2012, is arbitrarily and circularly assigned. Real astronomy does not support any match between the Baktun-13 end date and a galactic alignment. The advocates both admit and ignore this discrepancy.

It's almost a sidelight that the winter-solstice sun will never actually "eclipse" the galaxy's true center, the pointlike radio source marking the Milky Way's central black hole. Moreover, the winter-solstice sun won’t even pass closest to it on the sky for another 200 years. What did the Maya themselves think about End Times? There is no evidence that they saw the calendar and a world age ending in either transcendence or catastrophe on December 21, 2012. Some Maya Long Count texts refer to dates many baktuns past 13 and even into the next pictun and beyond. For instance, an inscription commissioned in the 7th century A.D. by King Pacal of Palenque predicts that an anniversary of his accession would be commemorated on Oct. 15, 4772.

In all of the Long Count texts discovered, transcribed, and translated, only one mentions the key date in 2012: Monument 6 at Tortuguero, a Maya site in the Mexican state of Tabasco. The text is damaged, but what remains does not imply the end of time.

The Secret NASA Conspiracy
Some advocates for the 2012 catastrophe say that what will actually cause the devastation is an alignment of planets. There is no planet alignment on the winter solstice in 2012. Nonetheless, advocates of doom connect the fictional alignment to astrological predictions or groundless claims about a reversal of Earth's magnetic field and unprecedented solar storms. Many internet postings and guests on all-night apocalyptic radio have elaborated on these themes.

In particular, several threads of irrational thought have created an internet phantom, the secret planet Nibiru. It's the bowling ball, and Earth is the pin. There is no such planet, though it is often equated with Eris, a plutoid orbiting safely and permanently beyond Pluto. Some insist, however, that a NASA conspiracy is in play and that Nibiru, looming in on the approach, can already be seen in broad daylight from the Southern Hemisphere. It was supposed to become visible from the Northern Hemisphere, too, by last May, but like a fickle blind date, it stood up those awaiting it.

Others on the Web, confused about the supposed alignment of the winter-solstice sun with the Milky Way's center, have declared that the Sun is now plummeting to the Milky Way’s center and dragging Earth with it. The predicted result? Earth’s polar axis will shift. Most of what's claimed for 2012 relies on wishful thinking, wild pseudoscientific folly, ignorance of astronomy, and a level of paranoia worthy of Night of the Living Dead.

So maybe the Maya were on to us after all. The clock is ticking. And it’s the end of the world as we know it.


 
 
E.C. Krupp, a Sky & Telescope contributing editor, is Director of Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles.

One False Prophecy likely to reappear: Planet X

This site does keep track of End Time and we do in fact maintain Jesus will return in our lifetime, but many events will occur and many speculations that Lead Up to the Return of Jesus. The Rapture can occur anytime, but the Doomsday scenario of 2012 is merely a "foreshadowing" of the time span begining in 2012 and extending beyond that will see the culmination of all things. 
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The Planet X Saga: The Scientific Arguments in a Nutshell


Let me be very clear here: Nancy Lieder, Mark Hazlewood and the rest of these Planet X people (hereafter referred to as "PXPs") are completely wrong. No rogue giant planet is about to destroy the Earth, in May 2003 or otherwise. The webpages on this and other sites give lots of details, but I thought it might help if I made a brief synopsis of the arguments I and others make to debunk this pseudoscientific silliness. Listed below are the major points against the claims of the PXPs. Feel free to use them to make yourself feel better, or to use on someone who is contemplating the Dark Side.


* Ancient texts do not discuss the existence of a tenth planet.
* There is no astronomical indication of the existence of another large planet in the inner solar system.
* The Sun is not acting in any way abnormally.
* There are not more earthquakes than normal.
* There has been a lot of weird weather lately
* Brown dwarfs are not at all the way Planet X people describe.
* Observatories are not being closed suspiciously.
* The pictures that have been posted are either outright fakes or being misinterpreted.
* I am not a government disinformation agent.
* The Grand Conclusion (guess what it is)
* Links and acknowledgements


Ancient texts do not discuss the existence of a tenth planet.


image of Berlin Seal
Image of the Berlin Seal, which doesn't show Planet X
Zechariah Sitchin bases his entire theory of the existence of a tenth planet on ancient texts, including Sumerian and biblical writings. However, he is known to misinterpret Sumerian, sometimes grossly. His key finding is based on a seal that shows a diagram that looks like the solar system, with the Sun at the center. It appears to have eleven planets around it. Since Sumerians counted the Sun and Moon as planets, Sitchin says the extra one must be some unknown planet. He also says it has aliens on it who communicated with the ancient Sumerians.


But there are two major problems with this. Well, three, if you count having alien visitations as a problem (and I certainly do). But ignoring that, there are still two biggies. Sitchin claims that the picture shows Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. But the Sumerians didn't have telescopes, and therefore could only have known of them if aliens told them about their existence. But if aliens told them about those planets, why not about the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, or Saturn's rings? The seal doesn't show any of these features. And the Sumerians thought the Moon and Sun were planets, when they aren't. Certainly aliens would know that the Sun and Moon are not planets! Sitchin is picking and choosing things in the picture to support his arguments, and ignoring things that don't support it. That isn't science, it's fantasy. It's also wrong.
Worse, his interpretation of the picture is wrong. The Sumerians have an unambiguous symbol for the Sun: a circle with four triangles around it like rays, and squiggly lines between the triangles. That is emphatically not the symbol in the seal. The symbol used is that of a bright star, but not the Sun. So even Sitchin's basic premise is wrong. Michael Heiser, a Sumerian scholar, outlines all this on his website.


Conclusion: Sitchin's ideas are wrong, and so there is no reason to even introduce the idea of a tenth planet that passes by the Earth.


There is no astronomical indication of the existence of another large planet in the inner solar system.
In my opinion, this is the biggest problem with the Planet X myth. Simply put: where is it? We don't see it optically, and we don't see any effects gravitationally.




image of Jupiter in the night sky
Image of Jupiter in the night sky (click to enlarge), from Astronomy Picture of the Day
Look at Jupiter. Literally! It's about ten times the diameter of the Earth, and it's on average about 750 million kilometers (450 million miles) away. It is easily visible to the naked eye, and in fact is usually the fourth or fifth brightest object in the sky (the Sun, Moon, and Venus are brighter, and Mars can sometimes be brighter than Jupiter).


Yet, for Planet X to be here in less then a decade, it can't be farther than a billion or so kilometers away. Even at that distance, it would be one of the brightest objects in the sky. Even if it were too faint to be seen with the naked eye, it would still be seen easily even if it were billions of kilometers away. Remember, tiny Pluto is 5 billion kilometers out, and can be easily detected using modern equipment, and Pluto is way smaller than Planet X is supposed to be. There is simply no way a big planet so close to Earth could have escaped astronomers' detection-- even amateur astronomers, who even Lieder and Hazlewood must realize have no reason to lie-- all these decades.


Also, a giant planet has giant gravity. Neptune was discovered because of its gravitational effects on Saturn and Uranus. Planet X, if it were anywhere near the inner solar system (and in truth, even a long way out), would pull on those planets. This pull would affect their orbits, and we'd see that. We don't. Some of the Planet X proponents talk about how the outer planets' orbits are indeed affected, but they are relying on very old data. In fact, the planets are exactly where they should be given the nine planets we know about.


A lot of PXPs talk about a couple of scientific papers published which talk about perturbations in comet orbits indicating a possible tenth planet. I have read both papers, and found them to be interesting, but unlikely. They are more speculation than hard science, in my opinion. But even if they are correct, they would indicate a planet that is way, way farther out than Hazlewood and Lieder claim for Planet X, and in fact would indicate there is no massive planet closer to the inner solar system. As usual, by pointing out scientific evidence they think supports their position, the PXPs are actually highlighting evidence against them.


Another favorite claim of Mark Hazlewood is that NASA found the tenth planet back in 1983, and even announced it. This is patently untrue. What really happened was that a satellite used to make astronomical observations in infrared light found several objects that were previously unidentified. During a press conference, the astronomers made a list of potential sources, including (but not limited to) a tenth planet. Of course, the headline in the Washington Post zeroed in on the planet possibility, but science is generally not done by headlines. Sure enough, follow-up observations made later showed clearly that most of the objects were distant galaxies, and another was a gas cloud in our own Galaxy. No planet.


Of course, Hazlewood and his ilk claim that NASA got wise and quickly covered up the discovery of the tenth planet, but let's face it, that claim is pretty dumb. This was a NASA press conference in the first place, and if they were this ultra-competent super-secret organization that Hazlewood makes them out to be, or even if they were middling-competent bureaucrats, the press conference wouldn't have been held in the first place! And at the very least, the astronomers involved would have been briefed not to reveal anything secret. The PXPs want it both ways: they want NASA to be so good they can change journal articles, web pages, astronomical catalogs and more with iron-clad authority, but so bumbling they couldn't keep two astronomers and a DC reporter shut up. Puhleeze!


Conclusion: Planet X has no physical effects, has never been seen, and therefore doesn't exist.


The Sun is not acting in any way abnormally.
The PXPs love to scream every time the Sun undergoes an eruption, whether it's a flare or coronal mass ejection (or CME for short). They say that the peak in the 11 year solar cycle was two to three years ago, and therefore the Sun should be quiet now. Any eruption is therefore evidence of effects from Planet X.




plot of solar cycle data This is wrong. The Sun did indeed peak in the year 2000, but these peaks are not sudden; they grow and fade slowly, over years. In fact, each peak actually has two sub-peaks; solar activity rises, then declines, then rises again a year or so later, as can be seen in the plot shown (click on it to bring up a bigger version of the image). We are just now finishing up the second peak, and as you can see we should expect plenty of activity on the Sun. I talked to a couple of solar astronomers, and they both told me that the flares and CMEs in the second peak tend to be more violent than in the first, so we actually expect more energetic activity in the second peak, that is, now.
The PXPs neglect to mention the history of the Sun, and just want you to think about what's happening right now. By doing that, it makes it seem like the Sun is undergoing all sorts of undulations, when in fact it's doing exactly what is expected of it. The Sun is in no way acting abnormally, despite their claims.


Conclusion: the Sun is acting normally, and its behavior does not support the existence of Planet X.


There are not more earthquakes than normal.
This claim is similar to the one about the Sun. The PXPs say that earthquakes are on the rise, which indicates effects by Planet X. Every time there is a large earthquake, the PXPs say this is evidence for Planet X.




image of table of earthquake data This is wrong. The table displayed here (click on it to bring up a bigger version of the image) shows earthquake activity over the past 13 years. The quakes are divided by strength (vertically) and year (horizontally). The data are complete for 2002, meaning every earthquake measured is there.


If Planet X is nearly here, then you'd expect to see an increase of major earthquake activity over time, with 2002 having the most. Surprise! It doesn't. In fact, 2002 is usually average or even below average in the number of major earthquakes for a given magnitude that occurred.


You may notice that the actual total number of earthquakes does appear to increase with time, but that is not because there are more earthquakes. It's because we're getting better at detecting them! As instruments become more sensitive, more earthquakes are detected. Note that the increase is mostly in the number of small quakes, which are usually harder to detect. Better instrumentation naturally detects smaller quakes more easily, increasing the total number found without changing the number of big quakes found, because those are easy to detect and we catch them all with less sensitive equipment. Supporting this is the last line of the graph, which shows only a few very weak earthquakes in the 0-1 range. There are probably more of those than any other earthquake, but are far harder to detect unambiguously (a car driving by might look just like a magnitude 0.1 earthquake to a seismograph). The United States Geological Survey has a webpage describing exactly this finding. So, if Planet X is real and affecting us, it must be suppressing earthquakes, not causing them.


There were two big earthquakes in January 2003, both over 7 on the Richter scale. The PXPs went nuts about them. But look at the plot! Two magnitude 7 earthquakes in one month means you'd expect 24 in a year, right? Well, you can see that 24 magnitude 7 earthquakes per year is just about right given the earthquake history. So once again, by bringing this data to everyone's attention, the Planet X people are shooting themselves in the foot.


Conclusion: there no more earthquakes than usual, and therefore earthquakes cannot be used to support the existence of Planet X.


There has been a lot of weird weather lately.
Another big claim is that there has been a lot of unusual weather going on; tornadoes, droughts, storms, etc. Like earthquakes and solar flares, every time it rains it seems like it must be due to Planet X.


First off, surprise! The weather isn't all that weird. We are coming off of an El Nino, which is a weather pattern that disrupts climates across the world. Also, we are now into springtime, when things like tornadoes are common. Seeing tornadoes in Texas and Oklahoma is not only not unusual, but is expected!


There have been some records broken this year, but there are weather records broken every year. This is exactly the same sort of bad logic used in the earthquake argument, and is just as wrong. Even a cursory web search yields lots of pages about the odd weather we get as El Nino departs.


And even if it were true, how could the weather possibly be to tied to an incoming planet? If you assume electromagnetic forces, we'd see huge changes in our aurora before we'd see changes in the weather, and we see no such changes. If it were gravitational, then there would be countless other, far larger effects. Long before the weather were disrupted, we'd see changes in the Moon's orbit that were so big they would be unmistakable. They would certainly throw off the timings of eclipses, and we'll see on May 15th that there will be a lunar eclipse right on schedule.


Conclusion: the weather isn't any weirder than it usually is at the end of an El Nino, so the claims of weird weather are wrong.


Brown dwarfs are not at all the way Planet X people describe.
A brown dwarf is an object that is something bigger than a planet, but smaller than a star. An object with more than about 0.077 times the Sun's mass (about 80 times Jupiter's mass) will ignite nuclear fusion in the core, making it a full-blown star. The lower mass limit is somewhat less clear, but we can safely say that Jupiter is below it. Even if we call Jupiter a brown dwarf, it is still far larger than what Nancy Lieder and Mark Hazlewood say is the mass and diameter of Planet X. Nancy says it's 4 times the radius of Earth (Jupiter is 11 times Earth's radius) and about 20 times as massive (Jupiter is 310 times as massive as the Earth). Hazlewood's claims are similar. Neither of them describe anything even close to a brown dwarf.


Also, even an old, dim brown dwarf puts out light. A typical dim brown dwarf would still be a very bright object if it were anywhere near the inner solar system, or even located way out beyond Pluto. I even show my math! Remember too that a brown dwarf will still reflect sunlight (like Jupiter and the other planets do), making it even brighter. So if Planet X were a brown dwarf, it would have been obvious in the sky years ago.
Using the term to describe Planet X is simply wrong. I suspect they might use the term to sound more scientific, but again, as always, they wind up making themselves look foolish.


Conclusion: Nancy Lieder and Mark Hazlewood do not understand brown dwarfs at all, and saying Planet X is a brown dwarf is actually further evidence that they don't know what they are talking about, and that Planet X doesn't exist.


Observatories are not being closed suspiciously.
Many of the PXPs (notably Mr. Hazlewood) have been claiming that observatories around the world are being closed "suspiciously" (ever noticed how nothing can just happen in a conspiracy theory?). They claim to have a long list of them, though I have yet to see them actually post such a list. They do mention such observatories as Griffith in Los Angeles. Why are they closing? Because, claim the PXPs, they don't want the public to see Planet X through these observatories. If the public demands to see this planet through the powerful telescopes, then the jig, as they say, is up. So the government is closing them down.


But this makes no sense whatsoever. First, as I have shown, Planet X, if it existed, would be a pretty bright object. If we believe Nancy Lieder, then it should be so bright it would be visible even if you wear sunglasses. Mark Hazlewood claims it's still far away, but even if it were years away, it would be easily spotted in a telescope of very modest size; certainly in the range of thousands of amateur instruments. So closing public observatories makes no sense.


Moreover, the only way to keep this quiet would be to close all telescopes with public access. Every single one. Yet there are hundreds of observatories still open. I recently used some 'scopes at the Buehler Observatory in Fort Lauderdale, for example, when it was open for public night. Chabot Space and Science Center in Oakland, California, has several telescopes the public can use. The list goes on for hundreds of observatories that are not only open, but actively showing the skies to the public.


I expect PXPs will then claim that the observatories remaining open simply won't show Planet X to the public. Then why close any at all? Again, it makes no sense. Either all observatories get closed, or none does. They might claim that only observatories with big enough 'scopes were shut down, but that's not true. Plenty of observatories with pretty big 'scopes remain open.
Conclusion: Observatories are indeed closing, but only for renovation. Plenty of observatories with public access and large telescopes remain open. Therefore there is no government conspiracy to close telescopes down to prevent people from seeing Planet X.


The pictures that have been posted are either outright fakes or being misinterpreted.


hoaxed image of PX
Planet X? Nope, an admitted hoax!
Nancy Lieder has several pictures on her website which claim to be of Planet X. She is wrong. Many of her pictures are clear fakes, like this one, which is so easy to reproduce in photo-manipulation software like Photoshop that people have actually gone out and done it. In fact, the person who made the fake linked above has admitted it, and has even shown how he did it!


Some are such simple misinterpretations that it's hard to believe people don't understand what they are seeing. There are several examples of what have been called "second suns", which supposedly show Planet X as a reddish disk near the Sun. Here's a good one from Ms. Lieder's site. But it's clearly an internal reflection; the sunlight bouncing off the lenses inside the camera. The giveaway is how it moves from picture to picture as the camera itself is moved and rotated. A regular contributor to the Bad Astronomy Bulletin Board who goes by the name "Deepspacegirl" has a website which shows a similar picture taken in 2002! Obviously, it's not Planet X.


Some of Ms. Lieder's acolytes have gone out and taken digital images of the night sky through telescopes, and claimed to have found Planet X. They are wrong. Digital images are not as simply processed as a roll of film, and in fact takes weeks of training to understand the details. I studied digital cameras for years working on Hubble data, and have a pretty good insight into this. The basic problem with Ms. Lieder's images is in how the calibration data were processed. Unlike a point-and-shoot camera, an astronomical detector needs lots of pictures taken under controlled circumstances so that you can understand what is real in the image and what isn't. I bet you can see where this is going.


When charged particles hit an electronic detector, they leave a bright spot in the image. These kinds of particles are produced by the Sun, and can hit the detector in the camera. They are also produced by naturally radioactive elements, many of which can be found as impurities in the metal of the camera assembly. They are a nuisance, so you have to understand how to take care of them.


badly processed image correctly processed image
Badly processed image, showing lots of cosmic ray hits Correctly processed image. Voila, "Planet X" is gone.
From IMOpenminded's website


Shockingly, Ms. Lieder doesn't understand how to do this, nor do her acolytes. They consistently and persistently leave in these hot spots, and then claim they are Planet X. Seriously! They are not a gigantic planet about to kill us all, but instead are dinky little protons who have had the unfortunate fate of slamming into the electronic chip on the back end of a telescope. Correctly processing the images would make those spots disappear, as has been shown by others. This would be somewhat more difficult with a whole planet.


By the way, Ms. Lieder has claimed on numerous occasions that Planet X would be naked-eye visible months before its passage, yet she also claims it appears as a faint dot in the images she herself supplies. Which is it? She says lots of contradictory things, which is yet another good reason to disbelieve what she is saying (another example, not to be indelicate, is that she said (through her channeled aliens) that the then-missing Washington intern Chandra Levy was alive and well and living in Mexico. Ms. Levy's remains were found shortly thereafter in Washington, DC).


Remember, we are dealing with people with zero experience in astronomy, let alone astronomical imaging. They are easily fooled; don't forget that Mr. Hazlewood mistook a Hubble image of Jupter's moon Io for an image of Planet X! So you might want to think twice before believing what they say. They don't want you to think twice; from the evidence I have seen, they don't want you to think at all.


Conclusion: fake pictures and real ones that are misinterpreted do not support the existence of Planet X.


I am not a government disinformation agent.
Just about every purveyor of Planet X has said at some time that I am a liar, or deluded, or a paid NASA or NSA or CIA disinformation agent. James McCanney told a bare-faced lie on the radio, saying I have a "mansion" and a "luxurious office" (it's a lie because he doesn't know what kind of home or office I have, therefore he knows he cannot make any conclusions about them, and therefore he lied). I laughed out loud when I first heard him say this; I was sitting in my "luxurious" 10x12 foot office that I shared with a coworker. It was so cramped we couldn't both push our chairs back at the same time.


The assertion that I am some kind of spook is silly. Think about it: I am a professional astronomer, with a traceable history of doing relatively good science (I have a dozen or so journal articles with my name on them). How much money do you think I could make if I started a cult about Planet X? I could make as much money just as easily by writing a book and getting on talk shows. I could name my price to Fox TV. So there is no monetary incentive for me to debunk Planet X, unless I truly believe it isn't real. If you think the government would give me more money than Fox TV, then you are beyond any logic I can provide you.


Ironically, and in fact, all the Planet X purveyors are known liars, or at least deceptive. Since they have no evidence I am a disinformation agent, and yet they still call me that, they are knowingly lying. They may believe it's true, but they have no evidence of it, and so cannot honestly state that claim as truth.


Hazlewood has claimed on many occasions that I spend time fighting him because he is "on to something". That's a silly statement. Imagine yelling a racial slur at someone on the street. Don't you think they would get angry, and perhaps even argue about it? Wouldn't you, if someone attacked something you loved for no reason and without any merit to their arguments?


The claims that I am deluded are just as silly. I actually have evidence that what I say is correct, and also show exactly where Lieder and the others are wrong. All they can do against me is cry about a government conspiracy with no evidence whatsoever. So do you agree with someone with lots of evidence, or someone with none whatsoever, just hearsay, deception, and/or outright lies?


Conclusion: There is no evidence that I am anything but who I say I am: a professional astronomer who loves astronomy, and doesn't like hearing the Planet X purveyors misleading others about it. Slurs (and let's face it, slander) against me do not support the existence of Planet X.


The Grand Conclusion
Planet X doesn't exist, and we are in no danger from a giant planet, rogue or otherwise. Lieder, Hazlewood and the rest of that group are wrong. They may be consciously lying, or have a tenuous grasp on reality, but in the end it doesn't matter: they are still wrong.


Links and Acknowledgements
I owe a debt to many people for helping me with this work, whether they knew it or not. Here are some links to people who have more info on this myth, some of which I relied on here on this page.


* The Planet X and the Pole Shift site has lots of great information. it is from there I got the data on earthquakes and the solar cycle. Lots of good pages and links there too.
* Comixx, a contributor to the Bad Astronomy Bulletin Board, posted a Planet X/Nibiru FAQ which has more concise information covering some different ground. The follow-up posts are very helpful as well.
* Planet X image analysis is done at DeepSpaceGirl's website .
* Openminded's website of image analysis
* SkepticalMind's vast overview of Nancy Lieder
* Brian Gillbanks was originally a follower of Nancy Lieder, but then discovered the truth. Read his fascinating, but disturbing, story of the ZetaTalk cult.

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